Nuclear Fuels

Promoted for discussion by Brendan

Nuclear power has some very good and vey bad aspects and partisans on both sides argue passionately about these issues.  Ultimately though it is the pedestrian issue of fuel availability that should preclude us from embarking upon the type of massive scale nuclear power plant building that some have advocated.

To get a sense of current nuclear energy production consider the following:

Total world electricity production as of 2005 was 18,235 TWh (terawatt hours).  Total world nuclear produced electricity as of 2005 was 2,768 TWh (~15% of the total world electricity).

Total world energy production as of 2005 was 11,435 Mtoe (million tons of oil equivalent).  Total world nuclear energy production as of 2005 was 720 Mtoe (~6% of the world total energy)

Data from here: www.iea.org/textbase/nppdf/free/2007/key_stats_2007.pdf

Nuclear power plants currently use an isotope of Uranium called U235; the number refers to the atomic weight of the isotope the most comon form of Uranium is 238 which has three additional netrons as compared to 235.  Less than 1% of all Uranium is 235.  Uranium235 is the only naturally occuring fissile material of any real quantity on Earth.  There are a few other sources which can be converted into fissile fuels which I'll discuss a little later.  Additionally "Breeder" reactors can make some use of the more commonly available U238 because as part of the process of operation it converts U238 into U235.

So how much Uranium is there?

Breaking down the categories-

RAR is basically U we know is there.  EAR-I is Uranium we have very good reason to believe is there, geologically speaking.  EAR-II is U that is probably there and SR is getting into wishful thinking.  The "secondary sources" exist but there are some issues in using them and the "unconvetional sources" are pipe dreams at this point.

The subtotal is is about 17,000,000 tons of Uranium but over half of that comes from SR resources and really shouldn't be remotely counted upon.  Additionally both the EAR-II and SR resources do *not* take into account milling and mining losses (whereas RAR and EAR-I do).

Given that much Uranium, how much power generation is there available?

(this data and additional explanations of the categories is here: www.nea.fr/html/pub/newsletter/2002/20-2-Nuclear_fuel_resources.pdf )

Looking at the chart they use two different assumptions; "conventional" means the 17 mtons from the subtotal above whereas "total" includes phosphates and 10% of all the uranium currently dissolved in the oceans.  Getting uranium from seawater has been demonstrated under lab conditions but has not been put into any kind of production scale.  Until and unless it does work in the real world we should absolutely not depend upon it working.  You can see the Japanese Atomic Energy agancy website on the topic here: www.jaea.go.jp/jaeri/english/ff/ff43/topics.html .  Here you can see a nice page that discusses the technology and costs: npc.sarov.ru/english/digest/132004/appendix8.html .  Uranium from phosphates is a more mature technology but it's not like the world phosphate resources are just sitting idle.  Fertilizers, for one, make extensive use of phosphates.  What amount of the total phosphate reserves will be made available to uranium extraction is questionable.  

Consequently we can and should ignore the "total" columns and focus on the "conventional" columns.  And even those are far from assured since, as above, over half of that total comes from well named "speculative resources."  If we cut the "conventional" column in half that's a more realistic evaluation of what we really have avaialable to us and can depend upon.  Conventional resources would allow for 326 years of electricity production at 1999 levels (since about 1993 nuclea power generation has been pretty static so we can use the 2005 levels above) through a one use LWR (light water reactor) type process .  Cutting that figure in half, so we aren't betting our lives on speculative resources, means 163 years.  But thats only providing 6% of our energy needs.  For nuclear to do anything about the upcoming fossil fuel crash it will have to provide an order of magnitude more energy.

And that's also assuming our demand doesn't increase.  The Department of Energy estimates 2030 energy demand will be 1.5x the 2005 level (www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/ieo/world.html ).  So looking at the supplies of uranium we can really depend upon, and asking nuclear to provide just 75% of our electricity needs (just  5x what it currently provides percentagewise, and probably too litle to make any difference to peak oil considerations) results in a mere 40 years until total exhaustion of our nuclear fuel stocks.  And doing so would require the creation of some 2000 additional plants (the world currently, as of 2008, has 439 nuclear power plants producing about 3,300 TWh, we'd need to produce 20,514 TWh).

What about the lower lines in the chart above talking about recycling and fast reactor usage?  Currently the world uses LWR pretty much exclusively.  Those reactors can usually only use the fuel once and then it is waste.  Some LWR can use recycled fuels (the second line) which is very doable but doesn't result in that much additional fuel.  Breeder reactors can reuse the fuel multiple times because in the process of the reaction they end up converting more of the U238 into U235 than is actually used up.  Consequently with a breeder reactor the composition of the fuel convertsmore and more into U235.  This is why breeder reactors can be used to enrich uranium for weapons use (weapons grade uranium has a much higher percentage of U235 than natural or nuclear power fuels).  Because of this using breeder reactors means you can greatly increase the life span of a fuel stock.

Just one problem, as above nobody is using breeder reactors.  Worldwide there's one operating plant (the Russian BN-600 expected to reach end of life in 2010, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BN-600 ).  France and the US both had test breeder reactors but both projects have been abandoned.  The Japanese have one breeder reactor that suffered a very serious accident and was taken offline (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monju ).  It was supposed to come back online this October but so far has not due in part to a huge public outcry against the plant.  That's the extent of breeder reactors in the world.  Obviously if no one is building and using breeder reactors then it is a moot point as to their potential utility- they aren't being utilized.  At some point uranium prices may climb to the point that they become commercially viable, but the question is how much of the world's uranium reserves will we have used and sequestered (as nuclear waste) in the meantime?  Also how many LWR will then be sitting around useless while we build the thousands of breeder reactors to try and scavenge the remaining uranium supplies?  In a scenario where a centralized government controlled energy production it might be possible to build a breeder reactor based energy infrastructure that was worthwhile, but so long as atomic energy is the province of for profit companies (or short sighted governments) it is simply not going to happen within a useful time frame.

Addtionally since breeder reactors are inherently capable of enriching uranium their wide spread use is a counter-proliferation nightmare.  Consider how much certain parties have freaked out about he Iranian nuclear project and that is not a breeder reactor.

Thorium as a potential source of fuel has some possibility.  Thorium itself is not useful as a fuel but can be converted into isotopes of Uranium that are.  Once again though we are talking about an unproven technology.  There are no current operating plants using Thorium derived fuels.  There's one experimental plant, meant as a test facility not a production model, that is hoped to be completed in 2015 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HT3R ).  At least thorium designs do not have the problem that we are eating into their potential fuel source already (as is the case with breeder reactors and phosphates).

Thus barring some huge change in the current scheme of things we are left to the first two lines of the chart as the real situation.

To sum up; there is no good reason to encourage the building of large numbers of new plants today.  Current technology simply will not generate enough energy for long enough to matter.  Advanced technology may change this, but has not as of yet.  Some of these advanced techniques would require different designs than our current models anyway, so once again heavy investment in building plants now is pointless.  Investment in research is certainly worthwhile, but we have to accept that unless a breakthrough occurs nuclear fission is relegated to providing only a small fraction of our energy needs.

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Very useful overview

Two tangential points, one pro nuclear power and one con: On the pro side, a program involving furnishing developing nations with LWRs, selling them the mildly enriched fuel, and monitoring the waste products (to prevent collection and enrichment for weaponization), might not be a satisfactory long-term solution to the world's energy needs but still could be a useful way to generate electricity in a relatively cost-efficient and environmentally-friendly manner. On the con side, AFAIK we still don't have a fully coherent method of handling and storing nuclear waste, which is a potential environmental hazard and maybe also security threat under certain conditions.

Regarding extracting uranium from seawater, if I am understanding the link correctly there is a significant start-up cost, which probably discourages large-scale implementation so long as there are easier ways to get nuclear fuel. So possibly this is something that would become more realistic as conventional sources of uranium ran dry.

Regarding Iran, I imagine there would have been significantly less international concern had they restricted themselves to bringing Bushehr online and voluntarily foregone the enrichment programs and the HWR at Arak.

Your conclusion that our focus should be on investment in research for advanced designs is logical. I'd note that there also doesn't appear to be good reason to discourage the building of large numbers of new plants -- this seems like the sort of thing where different actors could come to different conclusions about the costs/benefits (perhaps due to weighing long-term/short-term concerns differently).

Anyway, very useful overview and good analysis.

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For third world countries

it probably makes more sense to to provide or assist with renewable respurces.  Particularly since most third world countries are at low latitudes solar seems like a good choice.  Unles the goal is to make them rely upon first world countries (which can have some merit).

 

The problem with building lots of plants now is that you are investing a huge amount of money and resources into a scheme which may only eat up your limited fuel stock faster.  It's like saying "Peak oil is coming, lets build more refineries and cars!" 

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Well, I don't know what the relative price is

I've read a few sources but haven't found something unbiased I could be sure of. But if practical solar is fine too.

As far as using up fuel... well, I guess if our long-term plan requires those particular sources of uranium, then it would be bad to burn through it inefficiently now for minimal gain, but if our long-term plan isn't tied to fission (which I hope it isn't) or if it taps seawater, I don't figure it matters that much. I don't think you can sell the idea that a resource should be left relatively untouched because we might be able to make more efficient use of it in the future, people just don't think that way. Peak oil *is* coming and we aren't noticeably slowing down consumption. It becomes a question of which resources should be tapped right now to provide for our energy demands right now. (Good luck scaling back demand, of course.)

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It isn't about leaving a resource alone

It's about the resource potentially not existing.  Why build your infrastructure around a specific technology when you don't know that that technology will last you more than a few decades?  Fission has a reasonable place providing a nominal amount of electricity.  Beyond that it just doesnt have a worthwhile life span unless something changes.

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when the infrastructure is incredibly expensive

It's worth reiterating that Nuclear power plants are incredibly expensive. I don't know the exact numbers, but I recall hearing that most of the cost of nuclear energy (currently) is capital expenses.

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thanks for popping my bubble

Thanks for writing this, I had always figured that the nuclear fuel supply was practically-infinite (as some of those stats suggest).

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If they manage to get the seawater

thing going then that's a awful lot of Uranium.  I just want to make sure we don;t put the cart before the horse.  Show you have the fuel first then build the infrastructure to use it.

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Fordlania

Surely building up the infrastructure wouldn't be a bad business venture.

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Building up the nuclear infrastructure might not be good, either

It's too risky to rely totally on nuclear power.  First of all, this present post 9/11 climate makes it even more risky, because one never knows who may get hold of it next.  Secondly, if Three Mile Island  or Chernnobal are any indications, there's the  real potential for an unavoidable disaster.  The only reason that Three Mile Island didn't end up a disaster is that they were able to avert it.  Next time, they may not be able to.  

Secondly, there's no feasible way to dispose of nuclear waste--at least not right now.  It's not like just simply putting it out in the garbage can.  There really IS no place to put it.

Thirdly, more people would be dead or sickened than was portrayed on the movie "The Day After", which, btw, wasn't nearly scary enough.

 

 

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Fordlandia

Ford Motor Company tried building their own rubber tree farm in Brazil without doing any in depth research and without having personnel with any agricultural background. Ford had a huge infrastructure built around the assumption the rubber tree farm would work. They didn't know what they were doing. The trees died. The venture failed.

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Good overview, thanks.

So, the solution (purely from an energy production needs perspective) to this dilema is to NOT build any more LWRs (thus preserving the available nuclear fuel reserves) and invest in the design and development breeder reactors so that the maximum amount of potential can be derived from the available fuel supply.

We obviously already know how to build them, they exist, we only need to invest in making them mainstream.  Bottom line, oppose new LWR and promote Breeder reactors moving forward.

Even taking your hand wavy rule of thumb to cut these numbers in half, 5,000 years of energy supply is not something to ignore.

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What about the security implications?

Are we talking only about what the US should do, or about a global strategy? 

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Note my carefully constructed caveat ...

 (purely from an energy production needs perspective)

I admit there is a security concern, but still, 5,000 years of energy just waiting to be used?

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