"Bear DNA," Cutting Expenditures, and the National Interest
Promoted by Brendan
In my original post on the subject of "Bear DNA," I explained that Sen. McCain ridicules spending $3M on "Bear DNA," but:
- Sen. McCain voted in favor of the expenditure .
- It ain't $3M; it's $4.8M over the past 5 years , and the purpose of the $4.8M expenditure was to obtain actual scientific information about just how endangered grizzly bears are in northwestern Montana.
- The study showed that there are "2 1/2 times the number of bears previously estimated," and we can therefore revisit the regulations that impose $25,000 fines on farmers who mistakenly shoot grizzly bears or do so to protect their land.
I suggested that Sen. McCain, instead, ridicule $1,950,000 for the library and archives at the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service at The City College of New York or $690M for the "Bud Shuster Highway" (named for former Congressman Bud Shuster, R-PA) that carries 10,000 vehicles/day back and forth from Altoona, PA on four lanes each way
of I-99 (vs 170,000/day on the three-lane-each-way Capitol Beltway).
Red Wing replied:
<<900+ MILLION in earmarks in 3 years? Almost a BILLION DOLLARS in pet projects for Mr. Obama? That's like million bucks A DAY he was in office!
....Why no mention of that?>>900+>
I didn't mention Sen. Obama's "pet projects" because I don't necessarily oppose "earmarks."
We're going to need to cut Federal government spending. To get there, we need broad agreement on working principles, not sound bites. My proposed principles:
- Is this expenditure in the national interest?
- If it's not in the short-term national interest, is it a national duty?
- If the answer to both questions is "no," then don't spend it.
Applying these principles to the $4.5M for "Bear DNA:"
(1) It is our national duty to protect "endangered species." Whether or not I can see a short-term national interest in our protecting grizzly bears from extinction (I do, personally, but then again, I drove through Yellowstone this summer with my son), I do think that the present generation of Americans has a duty to future Americans to not kill off all of the grizzly bears on our watch. And as long as we've got an Endangered Species Act on the books, we have a short-term duty, as well, in order to comply with our own laws.
(2) If the government must perform the long-term duty (or, at a minimum, comply with the law), then let the government make expenditures that are wisely conceived to achieve a definite and, if possible, measureable end.
(3) The bear DNA expenditure was designed to discover the actual population of grizzly bears in northwest Montana -- i.e., are they "endangered?" It achieved that end because it supplied an answer -- "not nearly as much as we thought."
Applying these principles, what would I cut (or consider cutting)?
(4) Probably the Charlie Rangel Center for Public Service: I recognize no national duty to glorify Charlie Rangel (or, if we do, why not just throw him a party? I'll bring the jellied salad), and I don't see a national interest that is advanced by the expenditure. Besides, given the events of the past few months , I'm not sure that anyone in the US could say the words "Charlie Rangel Center for Public Service" and keep a straight face. And, yes, I think it's fair to characterize this as an "earmark." (And it's probably too late to get this money back; but so is the "bear DNA" money).
(5) Probably the Bud Shuster I-99 4-lanes both ways to Altoona -- or at least cut back substantially on the scope of work and the price tag: Again, I don't recognize a national duty to enshrine Bud Shuster, and if there is a national duty (or national interest) to provide the good people of Altoona with Interstate access, it's hard for me to imagine that we couldn't fulfill that duty with 2 lanes each way instead of 4. Note: I'm not sure whether this technically qualifies as an "earmark," but it sure looks like a big fat waste of money.
(6) $10B/mo for Iraq: When I say "national interest," I mean within the 50 states of the USA. If our "national interest" in Iraq was about access to oil for us here in the 50 states, then the Iraq war doesn't seem to have advanced our national interest very much. And if we have a national duty in Iraq, it's purely self-inflicted (i.e., per Colin Powell's "Pottery Barn" rule: "You break it, you bought it"). I think we need to stop spending money there as soon as possible, because it is not advancing an American interest to do so; and if we have/had a duty there, I just can't justify more Americans and Iraqis dying to fulfill that duty. Note: none of this money is an "earmark," but there sure has been a huge waste of money here.
(7) $1B for Georgia (former USSR): I know that
the Bush administration wants to send $1B to Georgia (former USSR). I honestly don't know whether either McCain or Obama have had to vote on this yet, and I hear all the rhetoric from both of them on this subject. I sure hope that neither of them is seriously suggesting that we're going to spend US blood there. I would not spend the $1B. I think we need it at home. I fail to see either a dutyor a national interest involved in rattling our sabers about, or spending billions on, Georgia. For cryin' out loud, Joseph Stalin was born there! We're going to go over there and fix everything?!? I'd like to see Georgia's democratic government survive, and I think it's fine for McCain and Obama to jawbone in favor of Georgia. But it is neither our duty nor in our country's interest to intervene militarily there, or to spend a whole lot of money there, either. And it's vitally important that we therefore stay out of that country before we break the "Pottery Barn" rule. Note: no "earmark" is involved here, either.
(8) Other overseas commitments: I would take a hard look at all of our overseas commitments. Why are we arming both Israel and Saudi Arabia? I guess their expenditures on weapons systems stimulate our defense industries here in the US, but is that really what we want to base our economy on (WWJD with that)? What about NATO - are any "North Atlantic" countries really at risk of attack from a foreign power at this time? How about all of our troops in Korea? Does North Korea really pose a risk to us here in the 50 states -- other than the troops that we have stationed there? And if those troops are threatened, then why are we spending money to keep them there in harm's way?
It is our duty -- to now and future Americans -- and it is in our national interest to focus in on taking care of business within our 50 states. It's clear that we're going to have to cut expenditures: and we're going to apply some good ol' American practicality and Yankee ingenuity toward performing our duties and acting in the best interest of our country.
Now, as to Obama: what is the nature of his "pet projects?" How do they stand up under the foregoing analysis?
And, for that matter, I can't imagine that John McCain has served in the Senate as long as he has without bringin' home a little bacon for the folks in Arizona. What is the nature of his "pet projects?" How do they stand up under the foregoing analysis?
I used to like John McCain. If he had won the nomination in 2000 and faced Gore, I probably would have voted for him (it would have been a closer call for me if Bill Bradley had made a better showing against Gore). But he gets so much stuff wrong in his approach to this "bear DNA" issue (i.e., he's wrong about how much was spent, he's wrong about what it was spent for, he's wrong that it was wasted money, and he's even wrong about how he voted on it) that, if this "bear DNA" issue reflects his overall approach to government spending, then I would have to vote against him: it would be my duty to the nation :)
Dave
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Comments :
At the risk of the expected "protectionist!" label
I tend to agree with most of this. I acknowledge that we can quibble about the nature of the Iraq war (existential! / not!) but I like your three guidelines.
I think you highlight an often overlooked facet of legislation: enforcement. Thus the spending on the bears. And thus, for example, should we be spending more on immigration, to staff a bureaucracy that is in line with our stated legislated goals and rules. If we forget this step, we become a nation of "let's just pass a law to make everybody feel better then just forget about X." I'd rather have 10 laws we believe in well enough to enforce them fully than 10,000 that just make us feel like we're doing something.
It's hard, though, to resist the "there ought to be a law!" urge. Because we all like to feel good.
EDIT: "Isolationist!" might have been a better choice ;} But you get my drift.
"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran
Re: let's just pass a law
Is it that we pass laws just to make ourselves feel good, or is it that when it becomes apparent that some laws have harmful consequences those charged with enforcing them find better things to do with their time?
Maybe it's much worse than just "make us feel like we're doing something" -- maybe those 10,000 laws are doing the wrong thing in practice.
Agree that selective enforcement is not at all how we want things to work, so there needs to be review. I'd say that yes there needs to be enforcement but there also needs to be investigation as to effectiveness -- which again suggests that the bear DNA thing is not nearly the waste of money it sounds like at first glance.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Interesting question ...
Brendan,
It sounds like you might have a specific example or two in mind?
Dave
You know, I did when I wrote that
I was thinking in particular how harmless recreational drug use is generally tolerated in some contexts -- college dorms aren't raided looking for pot smokers, for example.
But I'm not sure I can support that claim as worded -- often the enforcement is lax for some groups or in some situations but then other times the full force of the law is applied. Selective enforcement is pretty harmful too, I'm not sure it's any better in fact than consistent enforcement of a bad law.
That said, I'm sure that there are examples of police or courts ignoring some types of arguably victimless crimes -- for example
:
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Thanks for the feedback
Funny, I kind of expect that label, as well. But, to me, importing the "isolationist" figure of speech from Sep 1940 - Dec 1941
, when we had few commitments abroad (and a robust debate about the efficacy of "lend/lease" with the UK), to 2008, now that we have hundreds of thousands of active military personnel serving in well over one hundred countries
is just not very realistic. We're not living in 1941 any more. Our case is new, and as Lincoln said, "so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country."
Interesting to note: it turns out that "thrall" was a form of slavery in early Scandinavia, and "Unlike many of the forms of slavery throughout human history, the state of being a thrall could be entered into voluntarily, as well as involuntarily"
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I agree with you about enforcement. I've sat in many an academic or informal discussion in which one could see the merits of legislation or regulation. Unfortunately, my work life (which entails lots of interactions with governmental agencies) has taught me that ideas that seem sound in the abstract often go awry during the implementation stage. Indeed, implementation often achieves results that are the opposite of those that were sought.
Dave