Thursday Open Thread
The economy looks to be worsening: jobless claims hit seven year high and the DOW is down 200
after the modified bailout passed the Senate 74-25 yesterday.
Tonight is the VP debate between Palin and Biden. Here's some advice on debating tailored for Palin but applicable to anyone. I expect both candidates to do reasonably well, I don't think there will be many gotcha questions or openings for blunders, but we'll see. Drop in to chat in our liveblog beginning around 8:30 ET.
Submitted by Brendan on Thu, 2008-10-02 09:37
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Bias in RCP poll averages?
Nate at 538
sees some cherrypicking of polls favorable to McCain going on at the widely utilized RCP 
site.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Good question for Biden
from Balko
-- Would you agree that the anti-drug policies you’ve championed have failed? If not, how have they succeeded?
I'm able to stomach Biden on this issue because he favors treatment
and diversion... but his overall career as regards the drug war has not been positive from a libertarian (or liberal, really) perspective.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Sometimes not doing something is the right thing to do
Just because I found it interesting.
The Man Who Saved The World
"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran
We've come much too close
too many times
.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Bears are a Threat.
I demand credit for at least finding that link independently of you! ;)
In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,
If you posted the Duluth thing before, that's what I
remembered (although I had no idea where I'd heard it) and so I went off and googled "duluth nuclear attack" and (re)found the list... so a belated hat-tip =)
Now that I think about it I believe the discussion had something to do with Colbert and his obsession with bears, right?
It's always the bears!
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Funnies
Homer Simpson Votes for Obama in 08
and the machines switches his vote to McCain, then proceeds to eat him alive!
It is the economy, stupid.
The right turns on it's own
Kathleen Parker is shocked that her criticism of Sarah Palin has brought such unusually hateful responses from readers.
I guess there is partisanship and then there is partisanship
Kathleen has been treated to a whole new level of discourse.
She is now a traitor an idiot. Her mother should have aborted her and left her in a dumpster, but since she didn't she should 'off' herself.
Such sweet kisses she gets the party of 'family values'.
Shoes on the other foot now, eh Kathleen? Compassionate conservatism just aint what it once was, especially if you are on the receiving end of all that 'love' from the far right.
It is the economy, stupid.
Harry Reid opens mouth and inserts foot...again!
In this sensitive time where loose lips sink ships...and in what he later claimed was an attempt to calm traders on wall street...the always dopey Harry Reid
stupidly flapped that indeed another insurance company was about to tank!
IDIOT!
“Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.
OHIO - The great toilet of American Democracy!
Let's just give a listen to how it's going...
Even the politicians are in on it...
"On election day
the law requires Republican and Democrat poll watchers. But during early voting, the law is silent. The Secretary of State has decided that means there will be no poll watchers even though, as Soren and others have documented, we have evidence of vote fraud going on right now in Ohio."
“Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.
read "evidence of vote fraud"
as "innuendo and unsubstantiated assertions, but no facts."
Vote fraud by physically voting multiple times is vanishingly rare. As in if you added up all the cases in a century you might have a enough ballots to walpaper a small room. There's a simple reason- it is a hell of a lot of work for little gain. Ohio will have some 6 million votes cast this year. Even for a toss up state you need to fudge some significant portion of a percent to have any chance of really making a difference. Say 30,000 faked votes. be generous and say each vote only takes 15 minutes. That's 7,500 man hours, even if it took no time to prepare. To say nothing of the potential costs if you got caught in such a huge operation.
On the other hand vote fraud by manipulating count tallies is simple, hard to detect, and quite possibly prevalent.
it's like white collar crime vs blue collar crime. Sure you hear about the blue collar criminals robbing 7-11s and so on, but your typical white collar criminal steals more than all the blue collar criminals combined.
I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.
Well...
...it seems voter fraud is alive and well in ACORN
for sure.
And whats going on in Ohio is disgusting!
“Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.
Not the fraud you are looking for
There's no indication that ACORN has been involved in a single case of actual vote fraud. Instead what has happened is that the people ACORN uses have created false registrations which when passed on to the state SoS constitutes voter registration fraud.
Why do they do this?
Because ACORN pays the people based on the number of registrations they get (which is dumb). The real fraud perpetrated here is against ACORN, not by them.
I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.
The truth about ACORN
Accusations of voter fraud leveled by the right against ACORN are "pretty much all a bunch of nonsense
."
Full story here
.
We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki
Please.....
“Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.